Hey Eddie, I had an Avistar and was getting to where I wanted to move up. I started flying a 4*40 that I built from a kit but found that since I had spent so much time building it I was too worried about crashing it to really have fun with it. I bought an Ultra Stick 40 for $119.00 and put an O.S. 70 on it and OH MAN! This plane is a kick to fly. It goes where you point it, has lots of low end grunt, and can fly slow or fast and is capable of lots of 3D/aerobatic type flying. Best plane I've flown yet............. [8D]