tianci, thanks for the pointer. I read the review with a grain of salt. The reviewer sounds like he's used to larger planes. It was good to read that the quality is decent. I was really hoping I could use the Saito, but I guess it will be heavy too. If I get one I may need to rethink my engine choice, I've got two new .36 engines, TT Pro and Webra. Maybe one of those would keep the weight down a bit.