appreciate your reply...but please dont think of it as bashing...I think of it as honest advice..I realize bad planes can be a matter of opinion..but I dont think Ive ever read 1 good review on this forumn of a meagtaech plane flying {or flying good} out of the box...surely this cant be coincevience??...to me its a sign of a badly constructed plane..that is way to often refered to newbies as a good beginenrs plane....heck I know of intermediate/advanced pilots who cant get them to fly..that alone should say alot...