Hey guys heres my mountain models miniflash................I highly reccomend these kits. This one can be framed in a night thanks to the laser cut wood construction. Actually it takes longer to cover this plane than to frame it up!!! This is a great tight in flying machine that can 3-d with those no-airfoil fomies, but when you drop off the power it fly on the wing because of the fat symetrical airfoil. I'm still deciding which motor...either an axi-2212, or a himax 2015-4100.......I have both laying around. Check out www.mountainmodels.com. You will love how much better balsa flys than foam.........god bless, chad