Thanks desertpig for the info. It is good to hear that you have got the bugs worked out. Sounds like you are starting to enjoy your new plane. I will continue to keep moving things around to see if I can get it to balance. If not then I will start by reducing weight in the tail, with lighter control rods, horn and tail wheel. I'm not too concerned with the weight of the plane yet, I just need to get it to balance, so that I can get it into the air and then go from there. I'll let you know how things turn out, again thanks for all your suggestions.