Thanks guys, it's nice to know I'm not the only one who appreciates these....*ahem* "wood roaches".

Well, the plugs aren't done yet. I'm finishing them now. And it'll take time, because any imperfections in these are going to be in every single one. Anybody remember the infamous crooked fin on the glass Patriots? You gotta watch that stuff, it'll bite you fast and hard. So, I'm taking my time and trying to do it right. They won't be perfect, because they are done by hand, not by a machine. But they'll do the job.

As far as kits, IF this thing flies good and doesn't have any major issues, I plan on offering a short kit. Basically the plans, composite parts, all cores and maybe some laser cut formers and hardware goodies. Not trying to get rich, but if I can pay my fuel bill in return for all this sweat, it works for me. The end cost would be about on par with the old Patriot 3D. That's the goal. I'm also thinking of a comprehensive web site with detailed instructions, pictures, tips, techniques, forum for feedback and ideas/questions, everything. I won't even play this game if I can't support it fully, that's the whole idea. Make it easy for us all, remove the secrets and voodoo.

Time frame? This one will be flying about march or april assuming no disasters. Then it depends on how much tweaking I have to do to get it like I want it. I'd hope late spring or early summer, but possibly late summer if I have to make a lot of changes. And I plan on assaulting the nats for the first time, so I'll be flying a LOT. But if all goes well, the debut will be at the Pensacola contest in early May. Windy and hellish, strong competition, some from out of country, perfect test. And a great contest, anyone within reasonable travel distance should go and fly.

Then, I'm going to make a no holds barred A-A version.

-Mike