Well, that sux! I am due to recieve my Reflex sim this afternoon... just waiting for big brown to get here! I bought mine off e-bay for $187.50 Darn it! I wish i would have seen this thread earlier! O'well what's done is done (see the thing is mine is slightly used) I could have recieved it bran-new! Anyway, i own AFP-Deluxe myself and personally love it, however the 3-D ships seem ballony to me. I could not resist getting both to try them side by side and see the difference. I have read so many good reports on this sim that i had to see for myself which is better, hope it's all i heard it is!