Andy, Thanks for the info!! You have no idea how it thrills me to hear about this flying in the pits is alowed thing!!! That is the most annoying part of this sim IMO! I understand about not flying where you should not, but however in a sim i feel it is not necessary. When you are at the field you have a much better perspective of where to fly and where not to fly,as on the sim it is a little more difficult to see, on my sim i use it to practice 3D manuvers and some IMAC.... sometimes i will just dip over into the "no fly zone" and i get re-started that really pi$$es me off sometimes!!! Anyway i think that is great to allow it. (that is how AFP-Deluxe is) you can go whereever you want!! It makes it a lot more fun IMO!! Anyway thanks for taking the time to fill me in and especially for the link for the patch, I am going to try it out right now! I let you know how it works out. THANKS!! Dave.