thanks for that mate - i am gettin there slowly in the hpi forum in the monster truck section - well... i think im gettin somewhere

thats just the info i needed. thanks for takin the time to do that.

and yea, the rally shafts dont suffer as much, but with my .18 engine, i am suffering with twisted rally shafts as it is, so, like u say, i expect more trouble with the mt shafts unfortunately, which is mainly why i havent paid for any yet - besides the fact that they are way over priced for the quality of them...