JR I share your concern as I am the one that this is all about. I take my hat off to african mike for putting this on the web and I also take my hat off to all of you supporters. Yes I do have a defibrillator with pacemaker capabilities implanted in my chest. What happened to me was caused by my flying into the sun and yelling "heads up" which caused an adrenaline flow that set off my defib. I was shocked four times and the plane crashed on a landing attempt after the second shock.The shock was like grabbing hold of a 220 volt wire. In my mind I actually thought that the transmitter had somehow shorted out. I went down to my knees and dropped the transmitter on the grass. I always keep 2 to 3 clicks of down trim in my planes to keep them from floating on landings. I was about 15 feet off the ground and about 200 feet off the end of the runway when it crashed. The repairs were minor and was back flying a few days later. F106 A has some info that I sent him that now is public knowledge since Carl made his decision. kennyo