Bum Drummer,

Thanks, that's pretty much the way I thought it worked. Just haven't played with it much. Never enough time to fly and really dial in a sweet setup on any of our birds. I relate to the "snap fight to the ground" comment, that's how the Hellraiser went in. I repaired it well enough that it flies okay, so all is good.

I have been more agressive with expo lately, and I really like what it does for mellowing out the plane. But, it's obvious it can slap you if you have a scary moment of reflex stop-to-stop stick play. I think that's what got me... I hate planes that snap like that... my Funtana 40 was terrible that way. It looks like the CAP Maniac is going to be a favorite... it really flies easy in pattern. Hope to get better with 3D so I can get down low with it some day. It's really hard to 3D 3-4 mistakes up, you just can't see the subtle twitches that you need to adjust for... I can do it all day on th sims, but I haven't developed enough testicular fortitude to bring the big birds down close yet.