The 4* floats worse than a trainer so that not what you want! I would also suggest the Super Sportster 60. Doesn't need to be landed really fast but its not a floater. The Goldberg Tiger 60 is also a very good choice. You can't really go wrong with either one. The Tiger 60 has a longer wing so its easier to see in the sky so that may be a factor depends on what you want. I like the larger wings myself. I have a Cloud Dancer 60 thats really nice but its more of a floater type.