I second the Aeroworks bipe for the 80. I was told that the plane came in around 25 lbs with a DA in it by Aeroworks. With and 80 you should be at 24lbs. I am buying the plane myself for this reason. But i am buying it from world models who is now selling the plane for less money. I paid $670 shipped. Cant beat that price for a 33% Ultimate.

Smokey