Thanks guys for the tips , just for info Kange who markets the Brisons now has 2 or3 left of the 3.2 motors he just got them in yesterday and they are all just about sold allready. I ordered one for my Lanier Giant Stinger, i had the Brison 4.2 on it last year and it was way to much motor for the new arf version stinger. I think the 3.2 will be about right. Thanks again i will cut the pipes off where they are rolled, i have heard that suggestion before. Bruce