I have had 2 super stars and 2 edges and they do fly good but not as good as the new yak. I think the superstar flew better than the edge and about toping 4 oz it will we have built shockys as light as you can possible build by using lighter everything saving grams anywhere you possible can and we only reached 4.8 oz with landing gear. They fly great gen 1 and gen 2 just the new ones fly better I have had a total of 6 shockys and have build 10 and am going to be building 2 more very soon and I haven't had one that didn't fly great even at 9 oz with a 2208 my second shocky still flew good but the new yak at 5.8 on 3s flys the best out of any one I have ever had.