Hi flianbrian, a lot of the threads in the warbird section do not deal with the Palmer plans. Since these are the plans I have, I was looking on info pertaining to them. They are well drawn up and appear to be very scale. These plans would be too advance for the beginner not to mention the problems associated with having two motors. This project I am thinking of starting after my spit. sometime in the new year, so now's the time to gather info on it. Thanks.