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Old 09-27-2002 | 03:56 AM
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Has anyone built the B25J Mitchell by Palmer Plans. The scale is 1:12. The plans are HIGHLY detailed, museum quality, ..........................but does it fly? :-) Thanks in advance.
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I started a thread on B-25 plans in the Warbird section---someone mentioned the Palmer plans. Perhaps you could ask that person.

So you have the plans? Can you give more info on them---are they straight-forward. Gives good scale detail? etc....

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I'm working on this one right now . . . .

A challenging project to be sure. You'll have to closely examine the plans and think things through before glue is applied. Some things shown on the plans have to be slightly modified as you'll find out as you begin assembling the parts. Example: the wing joiner tube holes in the ribs cannot be cut as shown on the parts template. See the front view of the wing to find the actual placement of the holes.

I'm going with a light set of pneumatic retracts, as I didn't want the hassle of routing the mechanical linkages.

As for flying . . . . only time will tell. I think it will come out heavier than Palmer predicts, but not overly so. I think (hope) it will work.
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Plans are complex, but straightforward. As noted above, there are some inconsitencies between views on the plans, so "measure twice, cut once" applies here. The flap joiner setup is overly complex, and can be easily simplied.

Fuse uses a former and stringer contruction method, framed up on a crutch. Wing is standard construction, with sections removable outboard of the nacelles. Tail is built-up, airfoiled, and quite complex due to the rudder linkages that must be installed.

Canopies available are excellent and reasonably priced. Nose bubble, pilot canopy, rear gunner placement, top turrett and side blisters are all supplied.

Scale detail is good, with scale hinging on the tail, hidden flap linkages, etc, and markings for gear doors, bomb bay doors, etc.
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Hi flianbrian, a lot of the threads in the warbird section do not deal with the Palmer plans. Since these are the plans I have, I was looking on info pertaining to them. They are well drawn up and appear to be very scale. These plans would be too advance for the beginner not to mention the problems associated with having two motors. This project I am thinking of starting after my spit. sometime in the new year, so now's the time to gather info on it. Thanks.
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Sounds like you are well into the project already. Do you intend to have the project done this fall?. I hate the idea of having a hanger plane and would really be interested in your first flight results. A quick question....... are you using a incidence meter on each individual wing rib. Any trick with that?. Thanks form a fellow Cannuck.
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Just getting started actually .. . . after a couple of weeks of studying the plans. Have cut all fuse formers, mounted to fuse crutch, and currently building tail group before adding stringers, etc.
I've compared the plans side by side with the Ziroli plans, and construction is nearly identical.

Haven't started the wing construction yet, and am not sure how I'll maintain incidence. Still working on the tail group.
Here's a tip. You'll find the tail easier to build if you alter the sequence from the instructions. You can actually assemble the entire tailgroup flat on the board and the F-11? fomer before mounting it to the crutch. This allows you to use a square, and maintain alignment, before glueing the entire assembly to the fuse crutch.

Won't be ready to fly until the spring, if it doesn't get put on the shelf for other projects.

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