Hey i am currently building a precedent Hi-Boy Kit at the mo, i do not mind building from kit but the only annoying thing about it is that the instructions are not laid out well. And i think RTF's is a bit too much, yes ARF's are fine to me, at least you still have to put the thing together, and that makes you feel like you have at least made part of it. But RTF's are pointless they do not teach you about building techniques etc. So i am for ARF's but ANTI-RTF's