RE: Genisis pics
Here's some weights I worked up for a Hacker 14xl setup. 77 hackermaster esc, 22x12, 10s3p prolites 6000mah. I've substituted pbg carbon tubes, and have the 9" carbon gear Central hobbies selling. Leaves me about 10oz to play with for wiring, motor mount, batt mount, misc. Might be close but I think it looks good to make 11lbs.
Rudder 2.3
chin 3.5
canopy 5.5
gear 4.1
spinner 1.2
l stab 3.2
rt stab 3.3
wp(2) 1.6
rt wing 12.1
lft wing 12.1
horn/clevis-4 0.4
9650-2 1.8
9150-2 3.8
9151 1.8
tires-2 1
axel-2 0.4
tw 0.4
adjust-2 0.6
ubec 0.7
14xl/nuts 19.9
fuse 32.5
batts/conn/velcro 43.6
wing tube 1.7
tail tube 0.4
esc 2.1
switch 0.7
prop 4.2
rx 1.2
tot oz 166.1
oz left (176) 9.9
wt lbs 10.38125