Well, I saw my first NERF demo this past weekend. All I can say is, I sure hope they don't ALL fly like that. If so, this is NO way for a newbie to fly combat. They look harder to fly than a real combat plane. Can't even do a loop. Stall stall stall stall stall stall stall stall stall. One of em flew in to the spectators area because it stalled out of control. If that was any example of what the rest of the NERF guys are doing, good luck getting it to last as a class or anything else. EWWW, that was ugly !