The rules and all the other stuff is what keeps the socially retarded from being themselves at a flying field.

Gee, Al, we're all impressed that you soloed quicker than anybody in 1962. I'm still trying to figure out what that has to do with the discussion at hand, but you go, guy. However, do not presume to know what we're thinking. I've been a cop for 27 years, which gives one a prima facia degree in psychotomy. And I still can't tell what someone is REALLY thinking, even face-to-face.

Yes, some "clubbers" are more interested in the social aspects of the hobby. Here's where you'll find the compulsory types, who feel the need to make unecessary rules and regulations. These are the guys you're talking about. Personally, I too abhor such people. I've been a member of four different clubs, and fortunately have seen only a few of these. But I will take a dozen of them over one "free spirit" type who thinks rules are for sheep and don't apply to him. The compulsory guy can be dealt with verbally; the other clown usually requires more stringent action, and that is generally undesirable.

So, if the above musings make me arrogant, egotistical, self-centered, whatever, to some folks; so be it. But, as I've said before, your (or anyone's) right to be a jerk ends with my right to pursue my hobby free of unnecessary hazard. And again, don't presume to know my character. You don't have a clue about me.