well I just got back from the field. after trying some of the harriers on the first flight, I found out there not as easy as they sound, I need a alot of work on that. On the second flight I worked up my courage, almost chickened out again, but was able to try the inverted spin. not nearly as hard as I thought, but scary. This boosted my confidence about a million times after finishing the first one. I still need to work on flattining them out, but now I have something to play around with. Thanks alot for all your help and suggestions.