I think you have me convinced. [sm=thumbup.gif]I really do like my hand operated pump - and you're right, it doesn't take long to fill the tank on a Sig Kadet LT-40. Also, I was concerned about the wires running to a glow ignitor fed off a power panel. I think what I am going to do is place a positive and negative female connection for my starter in the top of the compartment over the battery. I assume you can charge the battery back through those same connections. Now, I have another question: [sm=confused.gif] Does anybody know where I can go to get banana plugs on my battery charger (I assume they will also carry female receptacles for banana plugs.).