Thanks to Marty

I tried micro balloon ok, but could not get the effect I needed.

I tried humbrol and micro balloon, better but not quite

sugar no I thought I try paint first

so I tried the paint sprayed towards the dry side of normal method, came out well not too rough just right

So thanks Marty

I was worried about the wet and dry lifting after a while so ruled that out

hope this reply helps anyone who searches with this problem in the future

Bye for now
Ian