Skynyrd Where do you stand on your field??? At one end, in the center or where???? If you can stand closer to your approach end you may have a better chance finding at least a quarter. I used to tell my students that they use ALL the runway for take off but don't use the first 25' on landing. That way if it flames out on TO you may have some room to stop before hitting something and on landing if you don't use the first 25' you may not end up short all the time as a lot of folks do. ENJOY !!!! RED