Well said JBH ! It's very interesting how many interneters can TR. I've been flying in KC for twenty-two years and had never seen it done around here by anyone. Some could do a bit of quick hovering but no torque rolling. I had to buy a video to see exactly what it was and from there, I wanted to learn. I cheated and used a gyro until I could do it better.

John W.
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