i've been reading the post's from all of you and maybe i've fallen off track. did he want to know how to tr or some tricks to make it easier. the first thing i would tell him/her is to practice the hover. when you have that, start flying towards your self harrier style if available and pull the nose up if only for a few seconds so it hangs on the prop. and then fly out. do this until you are board or at ease with the bottom of the plane facing you. here come the tricks. when you are uprite the inputs are normal, but when the bottom is facing you except for the ailerons and throttle the rudder and eleavator are backwards. heres the trick. push pull, push the tail away and pull the tail towards you. when you look at the bottom if the the plane starts to lean towards the top you push the tail towards the plane. if it leans towards the bottom you pull the tail towards the plane. the rudder is a little easier to do. when the plane's bottom is facing you, move the stick "rudder" towards the wing that dips that will bring that wing back up. depending on who you ask the throttle bursts are more a style than a more control thing. bumping the throttle will produce more "torque" when it spools up and induce the roll. other pilots fly constant setting and are a little smoother. hope i have helped. RR