Now your catching on there dion.. Chris's original design had no foam and was built by the TOC company and he rejected them. They had different construction techniques but were still the same airplane. And I cant believe that some people here think it's actually OK to steal designs, why not steal video, copyrighted software etc etc, it's all the same in china but I would hope people in the USA would think differently. I know chris is all over this fiasco but in my book from what I know and have been told "a borrowed chinese design" will never be in my hanger