I am moving this thread back to pattern forum but if you guys continue with the personal attacks it will be locked. There is no reason to personally attack somebody to convey your point and it does nothing to further your case. Present your facts without emotion and put as much supporting evidence as you can. Please follow the simple rules of posting below. Failure to do so may get your posts moderated here which means they will require approval before the membership views them OR get your access temporarily or permanently removed. The rules are simple so let's all just follow them.

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