Icepoint Wing Failure
06-09-2005 | 12:49 PM
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RE: Icepoint Wing Failure
You guys are too much.....NTSB LOL!!!! From everything I have read, it appears that both you and Paternguy are certifiable. I do not post much, I prefer to read. I post when I have questions......but this thread got my attention. I own an Icepoint, but I am not a pattern flyer. I also own another plane from Ultra-RC, so far, I have been very impressed with both the quality, but more importantly the service I have received. Do you know I have actually received email replies from many questions I made to URC in the middle of the night? This company is doing everything they can to make a name for themselves, and support their product. I applaud them and will always support them.
I can understand completely URC's replies to your posts. You are a POSER. You had seven posts prior to posting about this situation. Out of those seven posts you had at least three that were, well, not positive. BUT, at least you were the owners of those planes. I don't know what you do for a living, but the National Inquirer sounds like they could use you. You claim not to dis-credit the Icepoint, or Ultra-RC in your posts, but you continue to state, with your NTSB hat on, that there is a MAJOR - URGENT problem with the Icepoint. Your continuance of this issue proves quite the contrary of your claimed intentions. How can you, a non-Icepoint owner with no first hand experience with this plane, feel you have the right to post in multiple forums of this potential problem? I personally discredited you from day one. Now if you were the owner of the plane, I would have paid more attention. Guys like you are the ones that drive the vendors away from the boards and block the open forums as another method of communication for us consumers.
I personally believe, 100%, this issue would have been resolved to everyone's satisfaction the same as if you weren't involved with this discussion. As a matter of fact, since it is resolve, why don't you just shut-up and move on to another topic where you can release your negative energy, or find another crash to investigate with your NTSB hat on.
Paternguy,
Sounds like your 5 pound wrapper is not too tight either. But I guess it is still holding in your 10 pounds of crap. A pose a question to you......how about listing the most recent ARF's you own. This will provide us with a little insight as to what you are speaking of. I only fly ARF's. Have no time for anything else. And I can equally assure you, I have enjoyed this hobby for many years. I have a World Models ARF that I have had for more than 5 years now. I have fly it frequently, one of my favorites. Not one problem.
As one noble man once said, "that's all I have to say bout' that"
Ryan
I can understand completely URC's replies to your posts. You are a POSER. You had seven posts prior to posting about this situation. Out of those seven posts you had at least three that were, well, not positive. BUT, at least you were the owners of those planes. I don't know what you do for a living, but the National Inquirer sounds like they could use you. You claim not to dis-credit the Icepoint, or Ultra-RC in your posts, but you continue to state, with your NTSB hat on, that there is a MAJOR - URGENT problem with the Icepoint. Your continuance of this issue proves quite the contrary of your claimed intentions. How can you, a non-Icepoint owner with no first hand experience with this plane, feel you have the right to post in multiple forums of this potential problem? I personally discredited you from day one. Now if you were the owner of the plane, I would have paid more attention. Guys like you are the ones that drive the vendors away from the boards and block the open forums as another method of communication for us consumers.
I personally believe, 100%, this issue would have been resolved to everyone's satisfaction the same as if you weren't involved with this discussion. As a matter of fact, since it is resolve, why don't you just shut-up and move on to another topic where you can release your negative energy, or find another crash to investigate with your NTSB hat on.
Paternguy,
Sounds like your 5 pound wrapper is not too tight either. But I guess it is still holding in your 10 pounds of crap. A pose a question to you......how about listing the most recent ARF's you own. This will provide us with a little insight as to what you are speaking of. I only fly ARF's. Have no time for anything else. And I can equally assure you, I have enjoyed this hobby for many years. I have a World Models ARF that I have had for more than 5 years now. I have fly it frequently, one of my favorites. Not one problem.
As one noble man once said, "that's all I have to say bout' that"
Ryan
06-09-2005 | 04:45 PM
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RE: Icepoint Wing Failure
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You guys are too much.....NTSB LOL!!!! From everything I have read, it appears that both you and Paternguy are certifiable. I do not post much, I prefer to read. I post when I have questions......but this thread got my attention. I own an Icepoint, but I am not a pattern flyer. I also own another plane from Ultra-RC, so far, I have been very impressed with both the quality, but more importantly the service I have received. Do you know I have actually received email replies from many questions I made to URC in the middle of the night? This company is doing everything they can to make a name for themselves, and support their product. I applaud them and will always support them.
I can understand completely URC's replies to your posts. You are a POSER. You had seven posts prior to posting about this situation. Out of those seven posts you had at least three that were, well, not positive. BUT, at least you were the owners of those planes. I don't know what you do for a living, but the National Inquirer sounds like they could use you. You claim not to dis-credit the Icepoint, or Ultra-RC in your posts, but you continue to state, with your NTSB hat on, that there is a MAJOR - URGENT problem with the Icepoint. Your continuance of this issue proves quite the contrary of your claimed intentions. How can you, a non-Icepoint owner with no first hand experience with this plane, feel you have the right to post in multiple forums of this potential problem? I personally discredited you from day one. Now if you were the owner of the plane, I would have paid more attention. Guys like you are the ones that drive the vendors away from the boards and block the open forums as another method of communication for us consumers.
I personally believe, 100%, this issue would have been resolved to everyone's satisfaction the same as if you weren't involved with this discussion. As a matter of fact, since it is resolve, why don't you just shut-up and move on to another topic where you can release your negative energy, or find another crash to investigate with your NTSB hat on.
Paternguy,
Sounds like your 5 pound wrapper is not too tight either. But I guess it is still holding in your 10 pounds of crap. A pose a question to you......how about listing the most recent ARF's you own. This will provide us with a little insight as to what you are speaking of. I only fly ARF's. Have no time for anything else. And I can equally assure you, I have enjoyed this hobby for many years. I have a World Models ARF that I have had for more than 5 years now. I have fly it frequently, one of my favorites. Not one problem.
As one noble man once said, "that's all I have to say bout' that"
Ryan
You guys are too much.....NTSB LOL!!!! From everything I have read, it appears that both you and Paternguy are certifiable. I do not post much, I prefer to read. I post when I have questions......but this thread got my attention. I own an Icepoint, but I am not a pattern flyer. I also own another plane from Ultra-RC, so far, I have been very impressed with both the quality, but more importantly the service I have received. Do you know I have actually received email replies from many questions I made to URC in the middle of the night? This company is doing everything they can to make a name for themselves, and support their product. I applaud them and will always support them.
I can understand completely URC's replies to your posts. You are a POSER. You had seven posts prior to posting about this situation. Out of those seven posts you had at least three that were, well, not positive. BUT, at least you were the owners of those planes. I don't know what you do for a living, but the National Inquirer sounds like they could use you. You claim not to dis-credit the Icepoint, or Ultra-RC in your posts, but you continue to state, with your NTSB hat on, that there is a MAJOR - URGENT problem with the Icepoint. Your continuance of this issue proves quite the contrary of your claimed intentions. How can you, a non-Icepoint owner with no first hand experience with this plane, feel you have the right to post in multiple forums of this potential problem? I personally discredited you from day one. Now if you were the owner of the plane, I would have paid more attention. Guys like you are the ones that drive the vendors away from the boards and block the open forums as another method of communication for us consumers.
I personally believe, 100%, this issue would have been resolved to everyone's satisfaction the same as if you weren't involved with this discussion. As a matter of fact, since it is resolve, why don't you just shut-up and move on to another topic where you can release your negative energy, or find another crash to investigate with your NTSB hat on.
Paternguy,
Sounds like your 5 pound wrapper is not too tight either. But I guess it is still holding in your 10 pounds of crap. A pose a question to you......how about listing the most recent ARF's you own. This will provide us with a little insight as to what you are speaking of. I only fly ARF's. Have no time for anything else. And I can equally assure you, I have enjoyed this hobby for many years. I have a World Models ARF that I have had for more than 5 years now. I have fly it frequently, one of my favorites. Not one problem.
As one noble man once said, "that's all I have to say bout' that"
Ryan
Everyone is entitled to thier opinion, even you.
I Know Bladeflyer personally, and I was present during the failure. Not that it matters, but I'm also a professional builder and designer of pattern planes, and a FAA rated airframe and powerplant mech on top of that, SPECIALIZING in full size aircraft structures and composites. And I'm telling you, THAT PARTICULAR wing section was weak. PERIOD.
I know Bladeflyer posted this as a warning so that other might avoid a POTENTIAL problem that could cost them an expensive airframe. Ultra RC stepped up, Bryan is a stand up guy, and all is well.
My opinion? YOU need to shut up because that post was a personal attack and against the rules of conduct on this forum.
So RUN FORREST RUN!!!!!!!
-Mike
06-18-2005 | 04:49 PM
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RE: Icepoint Wing Failure
I am moving this thread back to pattern forum but if you guys continue with the personal attacks it will be locked. There is no reason to personally attack somebody to convey your point and it does nothing to further your case. Present your facts without emotion and put as much supporting evidence as you can. Please follow the simple rules of posting below. Failure to do so may get your posts moderated here which means they will require approval before the membership views them OR get your access temporarily or permanently removed. The rules are simple so let's all just follow them.
Please resist the urge to curse, flame, degrade, insult or embarrass someone in your post. We encourage the free flow of your ideas, but believe that they can be communicated (and received) much more effectively if you keep things civil. If you have to vent, take it offline. We carefully monitor posts and will ban individuals who engage in offensive conduct within the forums. Thanks.
Please resist the urge to curse, flame, degrade, insult or embarrass someone in your post. We encourage the free flow of your ideas, but believe that they can be communicated (and received) much more effectively if you keep things civil. If you have to vent, take it offline. We carefully monitor posts and will ban individuals who engage in offensive conduct within the forums. Thanks.
