sorry for the delayed respond... it's crazy how you broke that down... i looked at the video over and over at the part, then try to do it myself on the sim, i think i got it to do something almost the same w/ down elevator, right ailerons, and right rudder... start out going really fast the do the snap, the Funtana on Aerofly Pro would do a snap then go out of control just like the movie.... anyway, anymore 3D manuvers? i'm iching to learn more