TOC won with an Ultimate!
Tool,
I couldnt get mine to waterfall at all so I called and spoke with Dave Patrick. He said it wont do it (its give and take, fantastic knife edge, but wont waterfall...). Frank knoll even flew my plane and could not get it to waterfall. High alpha rolling cicles might be possible but I would think they are much easier on a larger plane. Not sure the ailerons are powerful enough to roll it that quick(that and probably to high wl). I have not done one but that doesnt mean it cant be down on the DP ult.! Does a good blender.
The higher alpha flying really rocks the wings back and forth on this particular plane but can easily be done.
Im not sure itll do climbing inv flat spins b/c of power.
Scott