i knew about spadtothebone, i actualy thought i was going to have to build a spadet when my first plane went south at full throttle, but thanks. Whatever i build, im going to try to stay away from nitro, and im going to try to stay away from anything more than a semi symetrical airfoil, as thats what my trainer is. i realy am not looking for a "second plane" or anything(i want to stay away from nitro if possible), i just want something to fly in a smaller area. its going to be very VERY hard for me to get to the field to fly while im at college station becasue of school(15 credit hours can cause that), and i would like something to take out in the largish fields around my apartment complex and practice on. the little plane i had, i didnt realise was going to be as advanced of plane as it was. i actualy might build a flat-bottomed airfoil version of it(even smaller) and try this 540 can on it.