Charlie P I totally agree. VERY SHORT FIRST FLIGHTS out in the country where there is nothing or no one to get hurt. The best bet for success is still an instructor and a club. No clubs within 60 miles of me so I went with just the instructor. I joined ama so If I wanted to go to a funfly for a day if available I could. In july I went to one in Iola and told all the guys that it was my first time at a club and asked them to check my planes and told them they were MORE THAN WELCOME to put me on a buddy box to show them I knew what I was doing. I got invited back but with a wife adn 2 kids it's hard to find a day all to myself to go that far.