Thats my point...
Rolling left and turning left you don't use left rudder you have to use right rudder!....But right rudder is opposite the direction of the turn.......So you use only enough to hold the nose up and make the turn more with up elevator at the start.....
If you use left rudder you will be loosing altitude.....
and if you use too much right rudder the radius of the circle will get larger....
The reason the outside rollers come easier for some is that the proper rudder choice (rolling right turning left) means the rudder is working for you or with your turn and not against you and against the turn in this starting position....
That's the entire point! I'm Glad you got it....
Thats why some people find it more difficult to roll inside the circle rather than outside.
Troy Newman
Team JR