How about because of discounted price or outright sponsorship! And you don't need to fly an airplane to make a judgement on it's power or performance.
Well I know they are not getting them free
Barely discounted, but I am sure we could get discounted Hackers if we wanted as well
Until you fly the plane you really dont know how much power someone has, they could be running reduced power the entire flight and have a fair bit of reserve....point is I dont think Adam or Dez is in any position to publicly post that the setup I used was barely adequate for power.
APC 22-12E at 6,200 rpm. I have tried smaller diameter props and I do not like either the power or the downline braking.
Thats more RPM than I have been told, I have heard 5800 a fair bit, but the Prolites hold some *****in' voltage
I am would bet Gen 2's didnt/dont put out that power?
Downline breaking, you really need to try an ESC with a proportional break. Hackers got one now and Schulze has the software available as well. I got one going after the Worlds and I wish I had it before.
Watts are an indicator of the power being produced by the motor. More watts = more horsepower. We typically measure the power being input. Motor efficiency will dictate power output. Of course, prop selection will make a difference in how that horsepower is converted into aircraft performance. The pilot will make a subjective determination on what they like. And if the two motors do weigh the same, then the power to weight advantage goes to the Hacker, as even you have said that the 30-10 did not have equal power to the Hacker.
Yes watts is power, but as you pointed out efficiency will drive that number all over the map. Also props can have a huge effect, I have noticed that the W APC props spin more RPM and draw less current than the standards, in some cases close to 10 amps less and 500 rpm more. The W prop will output less watts, but which will have more true power? I dont place a bunch of value in watts, prop size, RPM and draw are what I like to see. As long as I can spin the same prop at the same RPM then we have the same power....if mine outputs higher current then all it means is I am throwing more to heat. As long as I can deal with that extra heat there should be no difference in flight.
Geared motors will always win in power output, I have never disputed that. You can always change the gear ratio to get a more optimum setup, but that comes at the price of a) noise, b) a potential failure point....small gears are not easy to design, especially for high load and RPM in a tight light package.
Thank you, I will. I'm sure you will do the same. As for performance. that's largely a matter of subjective opinion. The performance I saw at the Nats from the outrunners was in fact inadequate for me. Others may have found it excellent. Am I right, or are they? That's one of the beauties of a subjective competition. It gives us a lot to talk about!
The 25-13 that I used at the Nats was barely enough for what I wanted, it worked and would have worked well on a really light model. The 30-10 that I am using now was a huge improvement in power, the next evolution of these motors will be even better.
And BTW, congratulations on the World Champs. I wish I could have been there again.
Thanks, its a lot of fun as I am sure you know
Are you trying for the US team this year? Rumor has it that it will not be at Muncie and somewhere in the southwestern US?