i flew a friend of mines turmoil outside of the hobbyshop he works at the other day and it seemed to fly like the tensor was different from the other foamies ive had(flatana,outrage,furious) and im thinking about getting one it does very tight loops both inside and out but the roll rate was sluggish, knife edge was easily held and parachutes were awesome harriers were ok but with some wing rock and hover was pretty good even with a forward cg like he had it set-up