Hi im new here and im looking to getting into RC planes.. i've been keeping an eye on these two planes but i cant seem to find any more info or even videos.. i only found one video of the "Blue Bird" and it seem to fly good.

here are the planes im talking about:

[link=http://www.trademe.co.nz/Toys-models/Radio-control/Aircraft/auction-35688280.htm]Wing Spirit[/link]
5ft wing span
30min flying time
540 motor

[link=http://www.hobby-estore.com/yhst-38176160243944/electric-rc-plane-super-bluebird.html]Blue Bird[/link]
155cm wing span
380 motor

I havent been able to pinpoint any website that gives me alot of details but both of these plans are indeed Two channel which is what im looking for to start off with. the prices look good and they even sell for better on eBay. has anyone flown any of these two.. any information will be most helpful. THANK YOU!
Ed