Cool, keep me informed. Again i'm going to try and make it wednesday night. If the new honeybee 3d comes in i'll bring it so you can check it out. paid 170 dollars for it with lipo, charger and symetrical blades plus bell/hiller head. oop's wrong forum to be talking about it. I've been flying my new mini around some outside and it really is a lot of fun to fly. see ya Bill