Again, you say I am demanding things. You misread my post. I have never demanded anything. I would be glad to get instruction on the instructors schedule. And, that is exactly my point. the club here does nothing to facilitate that. I do not want to monopolize the clubs time or anyones time for that matter. As far as posting in an "aggressive" manner, being told to "pound sand" from someone who did not take the time to actually read what was written, is much more aggressive, wouldn't you say? Again, the main point of my posts were that YOU were a beginner at one time, which you fail to address in every one of your posts. I also did not hijack this forum, it's not about technology, which is inanimate. It is about the people. All these people moving to park flyers and potentially causing problems is a much deeper problem than just the technology. Some of those flyers may have at one time wanted to be a part of a club, but got the same treatment as the poster above and countless others have received. Again, these clubs must realize the potential that is lost everytime a new flyer is discouraged. And the comment that a certain club neither encourages or discourages new members is exactly my point. That is elitism at its most basic. Clubs should encourage new flyers, without a doubt.