In terms of ARF's, I believe the "rate" of labor quality per dollar is better. The labor rate at China haven't increased that much, but I do think that the ARF building process and material control is getter better for these China built ARF's. OK, their hourly rate went up from $0.50 per hour to $0.70 per hour, but multiply that by 50 man-hour, you only see $10 of real difference.