Joe,
Thanks so much for the reply and the listing of potential "entry level" pattern planes.

I have been out flying foamies all day indoor.
I'm afraid that's what I have to look forward to for most of the next couple months here in Iowa.

I've been out of the hobby for a number of years and can feel the urge to give pattern one more try...
Besides, I'm too old for all this flip-flop 3D stuff.
[X(]
My reflexes aren't what they were 20 years ago!
About he "low class" comment.
I just couldn't resist when you left one just laying out there like that!

Thanks again!
JLK