fun and learning comment makes total sense to me.. i raced cars for years and still mess around with a 8th scale buggy. started with electric planes this summer and now a heli a few days ago. being im a newer plane pilot and now beginning heli pilot. its fun to fly for the first time.. than learn more skills and have even more fun. being new can be both nerve racking and fun. i see a t-rex in my future now lol. im much smoother now than in the first flight video i posted and im sure my learning curve will come along acordingly. i know the inevitable crash is somewhere in my future also [X(]. if anyone else has videos please post them/jerryc im totally new to heli set ups but would imagine the motor trimming pot in 4in1 controller would help since theres equal torque by the counter rotating blades/i would imagine if the problem was with a single rotor heli you would dial in more end point to the offending side of heli on the tail or less on other side depending on how much tail athourity you want. bdavision/something to remember.. in the past few years ready to run ready to fly etc has made it a lot easier for people to get into various forms of the hobby with out much money or expierence.. and the planes heli's etc perform better and dont require the time or set up they use to in order to be successful and there quality and performance is growing as well.