MikeL: We meet again. Re Read the post. I do mention putting a power pod on gliders. Now I don't know about you, but a Norvel or Cox is not going to get that puppy off the ground, especially at 6000' where I live. Even if you add the weight of wheels, which the plane, excuse me, glider, sailplane , stop me when you find one you like Mike, does not come with. I have put 15s on heavier gliders but still had to HAND LAUNCH THEM. Garry