Wow, I thought Irwin was only known in the Heli world. I would never buy anything again from one of his companies. He as screwed so many people in the Heli field that his name brings disgust when mentioned on almost any bulletin board. I spent thousands with HHI and almost never could they get the order right, or Irwin would try and pull some crap and say "just make it work". I guess he will never learn and just keep alienating customers. Ken