ORIGINAL: patnjimtucker
Mathew. The Web site at Horizon Hobby will show that the Twist is not currently in stock. I emailed them and about a week ago they answered me that they should be available in late January 2006. I have owned several of them, and love them. If you do not crash them they will last forever, but as I expanded my envelope of experience I have crashed them. And when I do they tend to break in the middle just behind where the pilot would sit. They can be fixed. Often times the wing survives the crash very well. The tail always survives. So now I keep a roll of the yellow and purple covering in my shop. Perhaps a stonger plane would survive more crashes, but it would be heavier, and would not fly as well. The Twist is an excellent plane. At the start keep the throws very low. I started at 70% of the recommended low throws. If they ever come out with a Twist 60 or 90 or 120 I will buy 10 of them! Jim Tucker
Jim,
I'm hoping that if I order the Twist from somewhere in Europe I'll get it without a wait because there's stock sitting around. If not, that's life.
ORIGINAL: Jack211
Matt, there's a sure-fire fix for the Twist and all other birds like it. Get the plane put together, radio and all, then get some of that expanding foam insulator and fill the whole damn plane, from firewall to rear fuse, wing interior too, with it. THEN you can drop it from a 12 story building and it won't hurt anything--much. It won't fly, either, but you won't have to spend much time fixing it.
The plane/plain truth is: the Twist is DESIGNED to break where it does, where it's generally EASY to fix. My pal put his Twist's nose (with an O.S. 61) into the frozen pond Saturday when he bottomed out of a low loop--going down wind! Yesterday he flew that bird again.
The TRUTH for pilots is to learn to fly. Early in this thread I heard about putting nylon bolts in the landing gear, paint-stir sticks in the fuse, and a half dozen other methods to "pre-emtively" FIX the Twist--all of which adds weight, of course. Don't do it. Learn to fly. Yeah, LEARN TO FLY. Focus on landings and don't fly in winds you can't handle. Go by the book's recommended CG until you want to push the envelope (and don't blame the bird when you do!). Know your limitations.
If this sounds harsh, forgive me, but it's all true--and there's damn little truth around in flying. Ask any old hand in this passion of planes and wind and sky. We ALWAYS want to blame something OTHER than ourselves (the wind, the radio, freak signal interference, et al) when it comes to our loves, our FLYING, our Twists.
As the manuals and AMA say, we're not playing with toys. These are highly designed instruments of flight, always dangerous. When you pick up the radio attached to a different bird, THINK and FOCUS. I've flown as many as 5 different airframes in a single flying session. I love that challenge--and I've made my mistakes. The Twist will do loops close to the ground, but when I change to the STurdy Birdy II (square firewall, Super Tigre .51--flies like a bat out of hell, 75 mph), I have to remember that the Birdy will NOT recover from inverted flight, low to the ground, with an outside loop. I have to roll out of it. The U Can Do floats forever; the P-51D lands at 30 mph. The Lanier Dart has to land at 40 mph, I swear. Flies like a brick.
The Twist is well designed and built, usually, but check those joints when you first receive it. Ask Gary, ghee-grose, he flew a Twist for a YEAR without damaging it in any way (huh!). The man knows how to fly. Then he crapped it out--as we all do when we have momentary tunnel-vision, do poor preflights, or simply push the envelope. And the birds, with that much use, tire out, CA hinges break, control arm holes enlarge, constant flex of internal joints, wing, ailerons, tail feathers, finally will give, unless monitored and re-glued from time to time.
Point is, don't destroy the Twist's design. Learn to fly it well.
Build well; preflight, preflight, preflight; practice, practice, practice; fly, fly, FLY!
And that's the TRUTH as I know it.
Jack
I don't think you're being harsh. I've been flying electrics since 2000, and I am very much familiar with planes that are designed to be flown, not to survive crashes. However, IIRC there were references in this thread to the fuselage failing in the course of normal harrier landings. Ideally you don't want a funfly/3D model to be prone to this sort of damage, but really, it's not that big a deal. If I get a Twist I'll probably fly it fairly 'conventionally', at least for a while - I still finding my feet in glow.
Some changes seem to make sense though. Fitting nylon bolts to the gear should mean that you strips the bolts rather than pulling apart wood joints and ripping covering if you screw up. Knowing me, I'll be too lazy to track down the correct thread though.
Flying skills shouldn't be a problem. Although I've had hard landings, I've never had a true dumb-thumbs incident with one of my balsa planes*. All my 'crunchy' balsa crashes have been down to stupid building mistakes and electronic issues. As much my fault, certainly, but easier to avoid in the future.
Anyway, I am absolutely not bashing the Twist. I think a 2900 post thread is a testament to any plane's popularity.
Matthew
*Don't mention the foamies.[sm=redface.gif]