The 25 has ½” up and ½” down movement measured at the trailing edge of widest part of the elevator and 5/16 up and 5/16 down on the ailerons. I usually have the rudder movement as much as possible without causing leverage problems on the linkage. The Kraft 7C only provides low rate settings from those listed above. I like to keep the standard rate control throw movement conservative for smooth flying at speed so what I use might not be enough for others. Enough throw that it will drop into a spin easily but still flies smoothly.