Hey rick

Firstly, sorry for the argument, though i think we both feel differently about things, we should just agree to dissagree. No need cluttering up the forum over stuipid stuff, eh?

Secondly, i dont doubt that there are 15 beta testers, when i was involved in game development, only about 15-20 % of outside beta testers contributed anything, everyone else just wanted something free to play with. I wouldnt doubt that there are more like 4 or 5 active testers...

Lastly, i know exactly what you mean about max vs. metasequoia...or max vs. anything else. Ive tried to learn lightwave, blender, maya, c4d...i still always come back to max...its like my "comfort zone", it just feels right. "Modo" by luxology is kinda nice though...its a new peice of software comming into the market, at a much more reasonable price, sans rendering though (new version will have it, plust support for mental ray)...you should check it out if you like max, and follow the Camera Tutorial on their page, its a good intro to it...