Hi,
A loooong time ago I learnt to fly on the slope, new Ridge Racer, launch, down elevator to push it out against the 20knot wind, instant loop back over my head hitting a poor innocent cow grazing behind me, snapped the nose(of the model) clean off, the best part of all was one of the other guys there(you know who you are Roy!) was laughing so much he stuffed his own model...........Mike