Go on, Admit it it.. we've all done it at some point ....something real stupid...something you know should'nt have happened BUT for reasons that your still finding excuses for , it did.

I know there's a couple of characters out here who want to know how i managed to " Roast the rump "......" burn the arse end off " (or whatever delightfull phrase they can come up with....) of the AV8R .


Here Goes ....it was dead easy realy !

New in line fuel filter fitted ...and a bit of re plumbing of the pipework to suit ....so i thought a quick run up of the turbine was in order ....Rats... on board gas tank regestering less than 1/2 a Bar ...better top the little chap up.... double rats..[:@].... top up tank nearly empty too... ah well, up end the thing & see what we can drain out of it ...

Phone rings...whiz indoors ....no we dont want any more double Glazing.. clear off.

Back outside ...time is slipping by now...best hurry up.. switch on, all systems go , three attempted starts, but no go then on the fourth attempt....holly cow [:-]......all the liquid propane /butane that had got into the turbine from the STILL connected and upended top up tank ignites...Dont panic Mr Mainwaring..[:@] No fire Extinguisher ..... i was'nt going to need it anyway....... Hmmmmn

All is not lost ... the garden watering can is close by....Tripple rats ...its empty ....run indoors .. refill, but by this time the arse end of the AV8R is well alight ....the rest is history now.

So come on we've all got some disaster story to tell i'm sure..!..

only S}#$..

i think is in someway related to the AV8R..

in mine also i got with the RAm500 a lot of flames...for prevention i installed for thr start up beetween the fin, behind the turbine a fire retaining blanket....

It takes a strong person to admit to a catastrophe resulting from a series of bl..uh..mistakes...
I'm afraid I have nothing that even comes close...you are the king!!

Sorry that it resulted in the loss of your AV8R....

Perhaps if you had taken a few minutes to hear me out about my offer for double glazing this would never have happened to you. I was about to remind you about the liquid propane when you so rudely enounced "clear off!" and hung up.

How about rolling to inverted at low altitude and feeding in down elevator to level off and then rolling upright and at the same time forgeting to release down elevator and then....... Well, you know the rest. To bad it wasn't on the simulator. Doug

Done THAT one! Forgot that you need to push DOWN to go UP when you are doing a low inverted pass. Maybe if I hold the radio upside down whenever I am inverted...

Going back ....errr....i hate to admit this....nearly 30 years....[:@] a favorite with late teenage bullit proof know it alls ( me ! ) was to turn up at the field with the latest, only just sub-sonic creation ....in this particular instance a Mick Reeve' s "Gangster 48" with a HP 40...... take off , invert , land.

Ailerons work odd on wings...[:@]

forgetting to check the elevons are connected up meaning a very high speed taxi resulting in a nice ground loop

That's actually a good one, one I have never seen!

Treadstone, REVERSED ailerons is a basic rite of passage.
Not plugging them in altogether, well, thatssa new one!

Two weeks ago, I was flying a Ducted Fan F-16 and tried some aerobatics out. I went to do a wide open barrel roll and push (I guess) to hard at te top, resulting in a snap roll.

Have you guys ever seen as highly loaded model snap roll? he,he It all ended quickly. Thing dropped like a rock.

I had never seen a Ducted Fan snap roll, so it was kinda cool 'cause I always thought that it couldn't be done. I guess I was right.

Heli days, Schluter junior 50, OS 50 engine and had drilled the throttle linkage slightly out through the bulkead........ bend the push rod a bit , will be fine, just fine.

Rod kind of does not like new shape, so keeps exerting sideways pressure on throttle arm on carb which is a press fit........

Arm duly comes off in hover mode 3 foot above ground, the barrel on the carb rotates to fully open, engine at full bore, PANIC PANIC. Modle briskly accelarates and climbs to about 8 foot.

Pull the stick back, no effect on throttle still full power, full hastily applied negative pitch, very spectacular crash, not much left of the mechanics, me too close spattered in shrapnel and debris[:@]

Made redundant following week, 2 years to repair!!!

Done the aileron thing on sons park foamy GWS 109. Got away with it problems at 15 feet but managed to cut throttle and with some luck belly landed with no damage save for wheels....... but then launched again as had not worked out what problem was!!!! In bits, son in tears, gets home[sm=thumbup.gif] Know what the problem was.... son not speaking for 2 days![X(]

Gazzer

I never did the reversed aileron thing in an airplane in 32.5 years of R/C (quite proud of that!). But about 9 years ago I was flying two Ergo 60 helis. I had decided to try a newer, better servo on roll cyclic. I swapped out a JR for a Futaba or vice-versa (opposite directions). Since I was merely swapping servos, the change in direction NEVER occurred to me. Lifted off into a 2 foot hover, gave a slight roll correction, she goes a bit more that way, more correction...... well, you get the idea. WHAAAAAMMMMMMMM!!!

I had no idea that you could hose up a machine THAT damn much from 2 feet. No idea! And those expensine carbon blades..... []

Been there, done BOTH!

Reversed ailerons on maiden of a 33% Extra 230.

Rebuild.

Forgot to hook up the ailerons on the same plane, one year later.

Rebuild.

Mid air two years later.

Garbage.

...jim

Yup. And the DF jet survived. Barely.

Going through a 90 degree banked turn at 100'. Snapped. Recovered pointing straight down at 75', still full throttle. Let it go a bit, then began pulling out. Lost sight of the jet behind a slight rise in the corn field. Figured it was a gonner, but continued to fly it. To my surprise, it popped back into view, wings level and climbing. Flew around and landed. Found a two foot corn stalk leaf hanging out of one inlet, and splotches of green all over the jet (colour scheme was mostly white with red trim.) Cleaned it up and flew it the rest of the weekend.

There's a short video of the jet on my web site after I had taxied back. "Green Mountain Jet Rally, DL Aeromodeles Cyclone, After Flight Through Corn, July, 2001"

...jim

Yep..... Most of us have done some really good smiley`s...
I guess you learned yourselves a lesson there..

Here are a few moore, for those who missed it..

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_23..._1/key_/tm.htm

Brg
Gudmund

I don`t have too...
Preferrably up elevator is the best to push the stick forward, for me.
I also use others planes sometimes, wich always are opposite.

I just have to remember wich plane I`m flying.

The explanation is this: As a kid, I had no one to tell me how set up the radio, ore teach me anything at all in modelling, so I thought up with the stick, was up elevator. The transmitter was not held flat, but vertical, infront of me. The antenna was pointing straight out of the TX, so I thought this was the way to go. ( Simprop AM radio)

After some years, the Simprop SAM FM appeared, and the natural position for this was flat as a table..
So forward is still up... Or..[:-]
During a year at the military drone-team back in -86, they ment things to be otherwice...
Almost like learning to write with the wrong hand, but it`s still OK... Bike-riding, swimming, it`s all the same.

But I prefer jets!

Brg
Gudmund

Thing with the ailerons is i can manage it concistently....

...& on the subject of foamys.... a Senior Rolls-Royce HS&E executive (Big Ted) brings his new wattage Sukhoi up to the field late one summers evening...LiPo's...Uprated motor etc, etc Plus new video camera... ...... would someone do the hounours and video the first flight, the chances of any mishaps do not exist...he is after all a senior H&S man ....all systems have been checked, risk assesed etc, etc.

Perfect take off...gentle turn to right..he reports zero trim adjustments required...loops, rolls ....exhibition stuff this..flawless...

Time to land...mm perfect approach....featherlight touchdownfront of us all...."Jolly good show Ted"....congratulations all round...

He saunters over to retrieve his pride and joy...extoling the virtues of this "Quiet,clean, & efficient" method of flight...

Gently bends down to collect his model...but puts his size 13 hoof on the trailing RX antenna wire ....as he lifts the Sukhoi up, said antenna cuts through the port wing like a cheese cutter wire...

We thought he was going to cry...

Two mistakes, one mine, one a friend.

Mine: Large multi engined scale model out for the first flying round of a comp following static judging. The model's flying fine but the rudder is twitchy - thinks sloppy linkage, servo u/s, glitches........ Lands fine & back in the pits checking all & sundry, all o.k. Perhaps the RX antenna damaged? Nope, perfect condition, safely coiled up in the fuselage from static judging [X(] Another satisfied JR customer!

Friend: Cap 21 aerobatic model. These things usually end up tail heavy so Rocket Ron makes a big heavy muffler from brass - old kill 2 birds with one stone trick - noseweight + in cowl muffler. First flight goes fine for a while but the model becomes noisier & hard to fly, eventually it snaps, spins & splatt [:@] The post mortem tells us that Ron had soft soldered the muffler together, the solder melted & the muffler fell apart burning through the ABS cowl & without the noseweight the model was tailheavy & unflyable. -John.

Once apon a time when men were men and transmitters were large, immobile ground based units I was flying my single chanel Super 60 on a quiet day. After several sucessful flights I decided to go for it and filled the tank up. Up till then I had been using 2 minute runs because I only had limited range 100 yds max.! This was going to be a 5 minute + flight. I even peaked out the engine before launching. It was going really well and I decided to fly around in left hand circuits and for some reason decided to walk around the TX. Here I need to point out that I was using a bell push on a wander lead. 3 minutes into the flight I realised that something was pulling my hand down, yes the lead was wound around the aerial. My piloting skills failed when faced with trying right hand circuits, total brain fade ensued and I finshed up on my knees.

Model survived but I must confess to a slight sense of humour failure when I looked around to see why no one had come to my aid and saw all my clubmates helpless with laughter.

I had a midwest jetster once and it had no rudders, i put the steering servo on the 4th channel. It was not lined up properly so i was putting trim into it to correct the steering,, Only problem was i had in my mind it was a 3 channel plane and i was putting trim into the airelons instead of the nose wheel.. Could not understand why it would not steer straight even after putting in trim.. NEVER thought about it, poked it full throttle and took off. Plane went inverted almost immedialtey... I DID save it but i dont know how... Cant belive i did that... Russ

Shove full throttle for takeoff, Pull up elevator, watch plane lift off, and snaproll right into the deck.

Radio not on correct plane, was set for helicopter 120degree swashplate, which equals full up elevator, full right rudder, and full right aileron when throttle stick moved to full throttle. 0% chance of recovery. Plane go splat.

Hi,
A loooong time ago I learnt to fly on the slope, new Ridge Racer, launch, down elevator to push it out against the 20knot wind, instant loop back over my head hitting a poor innocent cow grazing behind me, snapped the nose(of the model) clean off, the best part of all was one of the other guys there(you know who you are Roy!) was laughing so much he stuffed his own model...........Mike

this is quite theraputic really. its easy to admit on here but who actually admitted it at the time or just told people "erm... can't find the problem , must be faulty servo or something.
its a favourite of mine when its obvious that the builder/pilot has set something completely wrong like the movements or cg but still tries to convince himself and everyone else there that it was "interference". its amazing how interference only seems to effect certain people and others never have any but make mistakes.

SO WHATS THE BEST EXCUSE YOU HAVE EVER USED??

ok, here goes.
Maiden flight, on my new pride and joy JMP StarfireIIC with AMT mercury, it rolls out great, climb out looks awesome, turn back, is a bit shakey due to too much aileron throw, so as I reach for my aileron dual rates switch,I hit the engine emergency shut down switch and now have a very fast fully fueled glider. Things went ok, on the emergency landing until i go past the runoff area still about 4ft hi and clip a bush and rip the wing off and spin it in to a rock pile. Air frame totalled most everything else was salvageable. Dang !!!

To Jimmy B......stick to jets, ya do better! I witnessed his Cyclone/cornfield disappearance for those few seconds....couldn't believe it when it came up outa the valley!

Once, flying the SJ-16/Mercury, I'd accidentally gotten off in low aileron rate (even after Jeff asked, "Rates?", before taxi..), fumbled the switch and instead killed the engine. Compounded by a good headwind, I couldn't hear it at mid-throttle, so the plane got very slow as I practically broke the throttle stick, was now upwind and high over the threshold. Finally realized what happened, had enough altitude to make a nice 360 and end up low over the numbers...but still in low rate....so only a slow turn downwind into the weeds. Little damage but most embarassing!

Always head upwind, always head upwind...

Ray